Don't wanna sound full of myself or rude
But u aint looking at no other dudes
'CAUSE YA LOVE ME!
It's me, Mr. 400 Plus aka The Black Rattlesnake aka the One and Only King of all Bloggers! Welcome to My Kingdom aka The Palace aka the I'm to Busy to Blog blog where even my enemies can't tear themselves away from my spot. It's tough when you're out in front of the pack because your back becomes a tantalizingly easy target to cowards. But word to BoneCrusher, I AIN'T NEVA SCARED! Yall better recognize that this is Baltimore's and Atlanta's favorite blog and you don't want to piss them folks off! I even got a few eses down in Mexico and they'll just as soon as cut you as they will cross the border illegally. Watch your back! Ok enough of that, on to important stuff!
As the title of this post says today is the 14th day of the month of Nisan on the Jewish calendar. Stop scratching your head, I'm going to explain why you should care. Nisan 14 is the day Jesus was betrayed by Judas and sent off to die for you and your no good self. Now before you get all confused about "good friday" and all that jazz that's just something your You like it when you see another side of The King don't you? Intellectual, Spiritual, Humorous, Sexy, the list goes on and on. Makes you in favor of cloning doesn't it? Me too. Good day!
147 comments:
You amaze me with your knowledge sometimes, or at least your will to put it out there.
morning, interesting post....i'll just sit back and an d wait for the other shoe to drop
love it D...so mutli-faceted
You could have left off "sexy". This is a Spiritual post, remember?
I'm interested to read more because on one hand you say that "Easter" is not mentioned in the Bible. Okay. I'm with you on that. However, Jesus dying on the cross IS mentioned in the Bible ... from John 19
25Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. 26When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, "Dear woman, here is your son," 27and to the disciple, "Here is your mother." From that time on, this disciple took her into his home.
The Death of Jesus
28Later, knowing that all was now completed, and so that the Scripture would be fulfilled, Jesus said, "I am thirsty." 29A jar of wine vinegar was there, so they soaked a sponge in it, put the sponge on a stalk of the hyssop plant, and lifted it to Jesus' lips. 30When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
Oh yeah ... Good morning! :)
Thank you Chele for spicing up my morning. Here we go....ahem...
i heard that Jesus didnt die on the cross before.. i never heard the details.. so im waiting to read about that one....
im Catholic!! what you tryna say?? :oP
Ni san is also Japanese for 2 and 3, which add up to 5, which is Go in Japanese, and 14 totals to five, so the secret message for today is GoGo which are those sexy boots some women wear, which means, in order to keep the faith, I should have sex with an Asian woman.
Well, if you insist.
TOp of da morning King..congratulations on your fete
Jesus did not die on a cross. He died on a pole, or a stake. The Greek word translated "cross" in many Bibles meant just one piece of timber. The symbol of the cross comes from ancient false religions. The cross was not used or worshiped by the early Christians.
Now, let's say he did die on a cross why would people use that symbol in their worship? It has become an idol in worship which by all accounts is wrong. As I said in a previous random thought friday if your friend or brother jumped in fron of a bullet for you would you walk around with a gold plated 9mm to remember him dying for you or would you be an advocate to get rid of all guns? it's something to think about.
yeah i learned about this in church... thats why you're not supposed to wear a cross with Jesus on it.
i don't know why anyone would want to see that all the time anyway
Well what about a cross without Jesus on it?
Semantics.
Pole or cross ... whatever. I'm not worshipping the cross. I'm worshipping God.
I can't stand to see the symbol of the crucifix with Jesus on it becuase it is just a terrible reminder of His horrible death. I do, however, wear a cross (without Jesus). I don't think that means that I'm worshipping the cross. I wear it because it's a cute necklace.
And ...
Actually there's a big difference in pole and cross my dear Chele.
The cross was used by ancient pagans when they killed people as a sacrifice to their god Tamuz. Look it up people.
Jesus never died on such a symbol and God would not have allowed it even if they was how they killed people in Jesus' time, which it wasn't.
They killed people on upright poles with their hands nailed together above their heads and their feet nailed together. They did it that way to cause as much suffering as possible. When a person was killed this way they actually died from suffocation.
Chele are you saying your "cute necklace" has no religious meaning behind it?
catholics are into crucifixes (sp) which is the cross w/ Jesus on it.. catholics are into a lot of symbolism... dont really understand a lot of it... i go to church for the message.. not for all of the symbolism
what chele said
baptist believe in the corss w/o Him on it because "He's off the cross and lives"
yes ... I'm saying a 'cute' necklace has no religious meaning behind it.
I wear a butterfly too ... am I worshipping insects???
Yeah TTD I hear people say that a lot. They don't agree with everything their church does but they still go. With all due respect that has never made sense to me. If you know they are making stuff up i.e. Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, it's ok to be gay, and so on and so forth then they can't teach or tell me anything!
C'mon Chele work with me. Now you wear butterflies because you think they are pretty or whatever. What is attractive about that lowercase t?
I appreciate the lesson. Honestly I do. I understand the purpose is to engage us in an intelligent conversation and no one appreciates that more than me.
However, how He died isn't as important as the fact that He did die for us.
Alot of people get so caught up with wanting to prove a point that the real point is overlooked. I know that Jesus is the son of God and he died for my sins. Whether it was on a cross or a pole makes no difference to me whatsoever.
For arguments sake let's say you just think lower case t's are cute. The Bible says no symbols should be used in worship. Is there a cross on or in your church? What about on your Bible? On the choir's robes? Even if it means nothing but cuteness to you what does it mean in the big scheme of things and would you want to be part of something that is based in pagan worship? Not The King.
the diamonds on the lower case t sparkle and draw attention to my cleavage
the cross around my neck does not mean I'm a Christian. My belief in Jesus Christ and the word of God make me a Christian.
Now that part I agree with wholeheartedly. The point is that he died for us not how he died which is why it blows my mind to see all these crosses.
Yeah it's all about good conversation and keeping me entertained. Most people won't change what they believe despite the facts anyway.
Cleavage? Did somebody say cleavage??? LOL!
Sweetheart -- I am not worshipping the symbol.
I'm worshipping God.
Hey I can dig it Chele! I don't want to fight--sweetheart! LOL
But let's not focus just on you. In the big scheme of things and how the cross is used in worship to God would you not agree that lots of people DO hold the cross itself in high esteem and that goes against what The Bible says?
i agree with you on that.
my husband was real big on crosses before he became a Christian. he was raised catholic
Well Catholics consider themselves to be Christians right? Where's TTD?
You like it when you see another side of The King don't you? Intellectual, Spiritual, Humorous, Sexy, the list goes on and on
i am SOOOOOOO wet right now.
wait a sec...i spilled water on myself. brb
Nobody likes a smart aleck Nikki! LOL
What do yo mean, let's not focus on ME???? LOL
Yes ... I will agree with you on that. Alot of people put more emphasis on the symbols than on true worship. They believe the outward symbol is some free pass into Heaven.
Exactly. You see them kissing it and praying to it on their walls and what not. It's wrong. Not because The King said so but because....well the Original King said so.
They don't agree with everything their church does but they still go. With all due respect that has never made sense to me. If you know they are making stuff up i.e. Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, it's ok to be gay, and so on and so forth then they can't teach or tell me anything!
if you don't agree with everything your job does, should you quit it?
if you don't agree with everything your wife tells you, should you divorce her?
what religion said santa claus and the easter bunny exist? where is that in the bible? if it's not in the bible, how is it the religion itself is misleading folk?
everything written is subjected to interpretation. the fact that you don't 'get it' doesn't mean it doesn't make sense overall. it means it doesn't make sense to you.
finally, what would make what you speak of any more valid than what anyone else from any other religion speaks of? concrete evidence is also subjected to interpretation and therefore, can be disected any which way to support a person's argument.
Good morning Kangly.
You are right that some translations have changed the meaning of certain scriptural passages. The cross is just one of those that has been changed. But slight errors can cause major problems.
However if one truly believes that God wants us to have the absolute truth, I do, then you believe that there is one truth and we all have the opportunity to find out what it is. The Bible says search for it as if it is a treasure. A lot of times we get caught up in man made traditions and our desire to hold on to them no matter how wrong they are is what gets us in trouble.
yeah, but not evengetlical (sp) their chirstian is different
Oh wow Nikki you sneaked that one in there on me...good points. But...
and catholics pray to Mary. now that i will never understand. shes dead and can't do anything for you so why do they pray to her?
one truth? there is no such thing as one truth regarding spirituality unless you're talking about everyone having the same brain.
what you accept as truth doesn't make it truth. it only makes it true to you.
isn't the gathering of evidence primarily to assuage our own doubts? therefore, whatever you come up with the assuage your doubts might not be enough to assuage mine. so what you gather and see as 'truth' might not be enough for me to see it as 'truth'.
If my job is doing things that are inherently wrong or go against my religious beliefs then yes I should definitely quit.
What religion says Santa exists? Good question. What religion teaches that he doesn't exist? What religion teaches that the whole myth of Santa and the Easter Bunny are from Pagan religions? What religion says don't lie but then tell their kids that the fat white dude slid down the chimney. Even better questions.
Everything that is written is subject to interpretation but ultimately there is only one truth and that is the truth of the author. When we all went on Amazon and bought Chele's book and read it we might have interpreted it in anyway we felt but it's her story and her truth. Eventually you have to ask her what she meant by this or that. Am I making sense?
kool- we see her as the mother of Jesus and b/c of that she is worshiped... but to say that she's dead and we shouldnt pray to her is crazy b/c we pray to Jesus and he died....
how do you define "absolute truth" when it comes to religion?
the Bible says to "study to show thyself approved" all we can do is research and interpret. The absolute truth will be revealed when Jesus comes back.
Kangly just because the truth is hard to find and even harder to live up to that's no excuse to not search, find it, and live by it.
Nikki of course there is one truth. God wrote the Bible. It has a central theme. Now different scriptures may be interpreted differently by the same person on different days but that's the way it's setup. But overall the Bible is one book and it all goes together with a theme and is based on facts, past, present, and future.
the truth of the author ... the Bible has many different authors ... all inspired by God ... but still different authors. Therefore, different truths. The Gospels, are all different interpretations of Jesus' life ... which one is the "truth"?
you're right. if your job does something inherently wrong in your opinion, you should bounce.
meanwhile, it's all based on your own personal value system. the same goes for people who have faith in various religions. based on their personal values, they've alligned themselves with the religion that most closely reflects that value system. of course, there are those who follow a particular religion for the simple fact that they came up that way. if they find their happiness in such an act, more power to them.
however, if they are unhappy with how and who they worship, then it's up to them to change that.
you're also right about the 'truth of the author'. however, that's still open to interpretation from others. i could tell a person all day everyday exactly what i meant by something i wrote. however, if they choose not to believe it, that's on them and that's their freedom to see it a different way. doesn't necessarily make it a wrong way, just different. hell, it might even help me to see what i write in a different light.
also, the 'truth' as written by the author doesn't mean he or she isn't purposefully attempting to manipulate folk in order to get them to see his or her 'truth' as he or she sees it. as human beings, we all have our own agenda, which is why when it comes to religion, i tend to operate outside of it.
king...god didn't write the bible, man did. people believe god wrote it, but where is the proof of that? again, it comes down to what an individual chooses to accept as his or her 'truth'. folk go on faith and accept that god wrote it. then there are others who have never seen proof of this and therefore, do not accept that as the truth.
Quickly for Kang. Had she said no then we would have never heard of her and there would be some other chick that gave birth to him. She was just a fatihful woman who got chose to give birth to him. She was not special in any other way.
BUTJesus rose from the dead and is alive today
2nd what D just said about Mary...thats all she did. nothing worthy of being prayed to.
i think the main problem with these kinds of discussion is found in human nature. many of us believe so strongly in something that to see others who doubt it makes us feel as though we should doubt also. it's like the more people who believe in something somehow makes it more valid and makes a person more secure in that belief.
when i bring up other ideas, i'm not saying a person should doubt his or her beliefs. i'm saying i don't agree with them.
ultimately, it really comes down to personal choice as far as i'm concerned.
even 'factual' evidence is subjected to interpretation because the people who gather these 'facts' are human and therefore, are vulnerable to the desire to 'convince' people to believe what they present as the 'truth'.
I don't think Jesus would appreciate you referring to his Mama as "some chick".
Dang.
you're also right about the 'truth of the author'. however, that's still open to interpretation from others. i could tell a person all day everyday exactly what i meant by something i wrote. however, if they choose not to believe it, that's on them and that's their freedom to see it a different way. doesn't necessarily make it a wrong way, just different. hell, it might even help me to see what i write in a different light.
I like it when you say I'm right. LOL. Now if we are talking about a human writing a book then maybe I could ride with you on the fact that somebody else might see something that they didn't see. But God inspired the Bible to be written. He gave those men the thoughts and info they needed to write about stuff that hadn't and haven't even happened yet. Like Moses knew that the world was round! God doesn't change His mind. What he wrote stands the test of time. Nobody can truly find anything incorrect or false in the Bible. Had men just wrote what they thought then we would've never even heard of the Bible at this point in history.
@nikki - that is biggest turn off in most churches. the pastors scream at the congregation, "believe this or go to hell!" In essence, he's saying believe ME!! I can't do that. I have to read the Bible for myself and know that God speaks to me just like He speaks to the pastor.
again, that's all open to interpretation, d. you, based on your personal value system, believe god put those words into those men's minds.
however, just because the words were put into their minds, doesn't mean they wrote exactly what god put there. they could have picked and chosen what they decided to write about. that is, unless you're saying god didn't give man free will.
Kangly and Chele she was an imperfect human being just like the both of you. Ok me too. She was special in that she was a faithful believer in God's word. Was she the only one? No. But she is who God chose for his own reasons. She isn't just some chick but she isn't to be praised either. She did what she was supposed to do.
chele...i definitely feel you on that. it's been difficult for me to find a place to worship for that very reason. i have to ask myself if i'm gaining enough from the 'message' to disregard the fact the messenger is disagreeable.
D - I agree with you regarding nothing in the Bible being false or incorrect ...
But I think that the point is that not everyone AGREES with everything that is in the Bible. Right or Wrong. Alot of people highlight the contradictions in order to backup their reasons for not agreeing with the Bible. For example, "an eye for an eye" is a direct contradiction to "turn the other cheek"
I'm going to lunch. Don't let the convo go in the toilet while I'm gone.
Nikki that's where faith come into play. I believe God protected His words and thoughts. He gave them to these individuals for all of human kinds benefit so he wouldn't allow them to be tampered with or changed. Like I was saying about Moses. Thousands of years after Moses wrote in Genesis that the world was round and "hung upon nothing" people still believed that the earth was on the back of a huge turtle and was flat. How did Moses know about the shape of the Earth and about gravity thousands of years before a telescope was even thought of? these are the facts.
I agree witht he messenger thing Chele!
You asked, "What religion teaches that the whole myth of Santa and the Easter Bunny are from Pagan religions?"
That's what we were taught - that Christianity supplanted these holidays by inserting their dates right on top of them. Sure, Jesus' birth is celebrated in Dec, but he was probably born in Feb.
is galileo a prophet then? i mean, he also knew of this. did he get the clue to this from reading the bible?
is it possible that the part about moses was added at a later date to kinda 'confirm' the cat was a prophet of some kind? i mean, is there proof that the very first bible written also had this bit about moses in it?
i bring these questions up to say that no accepted belief comes without questions. however, you have made the personal decision to have faith for whatever reason you have. that's cool. meanwhile, it still doesn't make what you believe any more valid than what someone else believes.
you can't compare what Jesus did to what Mary did. Mary was not the first person God asked. she just happened to be the one who said yes.
Kangly and Nikki you guys are absolutely right about we base things on our family values and what we've been taught. But if your great grandmother taught your grandmother that the sky was red and she keeps passing down that false info then by the time it gets to you you're goign to believe the sky is red or based on conversations like this when I say the sky is blue you're just going to say well I don't know what to believe or I believe what i've been taught. Unfortunately you'll be still in the dark about what color the sky really is and saying that's what my mama taught me isn't a real excuse.
if we shouldn't acknolwedge mary.. the what about all the other saints that people pray to??
i don't know about any other saints...but the only one i pray to is God. and HE said we should have no other gods before HIm... so why would i pray to someone else when thye can't help me? i'm not gonna pray to some dead person.
d - the sky is 'blue' based on the definition most of us have come to accept for the term 'blue'. if my mom taught me that the sky is 'red', that doesn't make her wrong. it means that while other folks see the sky as being 'blue', she sees it as being 'red'. maybe she thinks 'red' means 'blue'. who knows.
but it would only become an issue if someone else who has accepted 'blue' as the color of the sky were to refute her statement 'the sky is red'. if she were in a country were everyone thought the sky was 'red', would they be wrong? no, because everyone there sees the sky as being 'red'.
again, based on what most folk believe...doesn't make it right or wrong.
Excellent point Nikki. I like you. I agree that a lot of things are based on interpretation but if one believes in God and that he has a set of rules and his facts never change and his truth never changes then there is only one truth as far as he is concerned. Humans can come up with all kinds fo stuff but if he says it's "this way" then it what he says it is.
And a complete and thorough study of the Bible shows that it never contradicts itself.
i agree to a certain degree with what you say. if a person believes in a particular god, then he or she believes what that god says as truth. however, just as humans have evolved, so possibly has the way in which people see his 'word' and that 'truth'. what was 'true' centuries ago might not be 'true' now simply because we've all changed, as has the world we live in.
so i think it's impossible to read and impliment the bible literally, which is what i'm thinking when you say stuff like 'absolute truth'.
she had Jesus...ok. so what else can she do? nothing. she did what she was supposed to do and thats where it ends. If you're praying to Mary...why was Jesus born?
Kangly Mary shouldn't have to intercede for anybody. As a matter of fact she CAN'T intercede for anybody. She's dead. She was given a special priveledge but that doesn't make her worthy of some extra praise.
thank you D
That's the think Nikki. I think that there is one absolute truth and then there a different variations of that truth that people have twisted and turned to suit them and their needs. That's where the traditions come in. Why does the pope wear that big hat? Why is he supposedly so special? Where did the words Deacon and Bishop even come from? It's all stuff that a man made up to make himself or his organization seem more important than he or they really are.
But if a person really wants the truth they can find it and that truth can be disputed or holes found in it. I think if you search long and hard enough you will find holes in every religion except for one and that's the true religion.
You're welcome Kool. LOL
infact... you can intercede for someone... you don't have to be a saint or Maryto do that. all you have to be is ALIVE...well thats not all but you do have to being a living being to do so.
you are either gonna believe everything the Bible says or you're not. if you're gonna read it just to find fault in it the what are you reading it for?
you can't pick and choose what is right and what is not. either you beilieve what God said or you don't
Where did the whole "saint" thing come from? Jesus is the only person that can talk to God for you and that's why you pray in his name. That's what he does. When Jesus prayed did he say anything about Mary? There's your answer.
I agree Kool.
thats what i'm screaming.
Kang and I are going to lunch. Don't let this convo go into the gutter while we're gone!
everybody left...
which one is the 'true' religion?
everything you have said up unto this point is open for debate. who determined what the 'true' religion is? who determined the bible is the book that has the only truth in it? who determined that a person must accept every single thing in one book or discard it altogether? all or nothing? according to whom?
anyway, i'm out. gotta get back to work and writing this damn post before i end up being stoned or something like that.
regarding 'true' religion ... is there one. Everyone believes that they hear from God and everyone believes that their religion is the only religion. Which is why Catholics pray to Mary and other saints, Pentecostals speak in tongues, Baptists believe you have to be baptized in order to prove your saved. Who's right? Who's wrong? That's where faith comes into the picture. Believe what you believe and have faith that you're right when it comes time to be judged.
good point Chele.
Ummm...I don't agree Chele but after eating that chicken cheesesteak I'm not sure I have any energy to dicuss it any further! LOL
Basically I feel that God has allowed false religion so that we will have to search Him out. We will have to find the truth. I think people recognize the truth instantly and then they have to decide whether or not they want to live by it or keep doing what they are doing.
*Burp*
You're excused.
I believe we said different versions of the same thing.
so it would be ok if we walked around with poles on their neck...i really dont think it matters.
Well that sucks! If everybody agrees then it gets boring!!! LOL!
No N1S that would be just as bad. No symbols should be used to "represent" anything in worship. You don't need them and the Bible condemns the practice.
but isnt that if your worship the objects in lieu of HIM...not in conjunction with...its used to represent him dying for our sins and rising again....
Well I see what you're saying N1S but He says not to do that. It becomes idol worship.
well on the real none of the images that are protrayed of him are him....they do not reflect what how he's described to look like
Exactly and that's because it's not important.
Like worshipping money or golden cows ...
and doesnt it say not to put anything above him, the fact that the cross is reserved as sacrid doesnt mean above.
yeah i think somewhere in the bible it says you cant see him when you look at him, but dont quote me on it, i havent read it in a while
It also syas you shouldn't rever anything but God. Not man, not anything which is why you shouldn't call anybody Reverend.
GB find something constructive to do.......
ok kween is here...
ask me what you want
Good question TK! Pastor is some made up word like Deacon or Bishop.
Minister, Preacher, Elder. All words used to describe Jesus and his followers.
well if he doesnt have a face why does it mean your worshiping the cross or what ever symbol used because its on your church or bible....we dont know what he looks like, i dont thinks it the same thing....it represents him, if it were representing something else i could see your point.
I see what you're saying N1S but what really is the purpose of it? It's not needed and He says don't use objects in worship to Him. The rosary beads, the cross, and anything else. He is a spirit and we can pray to Him. We don't need a symbol we have the real deal.
what up? i been away -- my mother's father died.
my mom is is minister. I just call her mom.
sorry about your wife's dad, rell.
LOL @ Chele!
What's up Rell. Sorry to hear about your loss.
D - I understand what you're saying about symbols ... but some folks need them. Remember, Florida Evans had that big ol' picture of Jesus hanging in the house. Maybe it made her feel like she was talking to a person instead of thin air. I don't know. That sort of thing gives people comfort, so who are we to condemn them for that?
I believe that those images of Jesus and the cross were made to give the weak minded (not a good word) something tangible to see. But it is just like love, you can't see it but you know that it exists and it's something that we all believe in.
i think we're getting into symatics, i hardly think he'll care if we praised him while holding a cross.....because you dont need a cross, stick, pole or image doesnt mean others arent entitled to it. sometimes ppl was something they can touch and feel, seeing that HE HIMSELF is a spirit...
mind you this is all said by someone who does not have a cross......wait i think i still have the one i had since i was 3, thats cause i keep everything, lol
Laa -- do you realize what you just did?
It is EXACTLY like love because GOD IS LOVE!!!!
Let the church say Amen! We will now have the announcements ...
Laa is very right! Somebody who lacked enough faith came up with items to help them believe something was there instead of thin air. Just because some people find comfort in something doesn't mean it should be done.
Does God care if we use them? According to The Bible he cares. People were killed immediately in ancient times for doing the exact same thing. God doesn't change.
my wife?!?!
lol no no no it was my mom's dad -- i ain't married.
I'm single and available :-)
i dont think that means you dont believe cause you have a cross, you just like that its tangible.....for that matter we dont need the bible either, the bible was written by man, and has changed over time, as all history does...plus its interperted by each person who writes it and reads it....
sorry about your grandfather rell, may he rest in peace
D - you are entitled to your opinion. I respectfully disagree.
The dictionary describes idolatry as:
image-worship or divine honour paid to any created object. Paul describes the
origin of idolatry in Rom. 1:21-25: men forsook God, and sank into ignorance
and moral corruption (1:28). The forms of idolatry are, (1.) Fetishism, or the
worship of trees, rivers, hills, stones, etc.
We are discussing apples and oranges: worhip of idols or using symbols as part of worship to God.
Praying or worshipping an idol is clearly wrong. I don't think displaying a cross in church is wrong.
And you are really going to have to show me where God said it was wrong.
First of all let me say everything that I have said today is what I believe. I hope I haven't been a jerk about it with any "you're wrong" type statements. Cool? Ok.
The difference between the Bible and a wooden cross is one was given to us by God to help us live the best life possible. Also he has protected it against those who have tried to change it. The cross or rosary beads are things that men made and are images or idols that the Bible that He provided says not to use. I think a lot of times as humans we'll decide "well it's not that bad" or "it's ok because I know this or that". It's no different than when God told Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit and they decided that "well it'll be ok". It wasn't ok for them and it's not ok for us.
Laa so well put...
ok good post King...this time of religious belief always intrigues me...where does 3 days come into between friday and sunday...why is good friday called good when a Man was brutally assualted for all mankind...where did easter come from...
Acts 17: 24,25, & 29:
24The God that made the world and all the things in it, being, as this One is, Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in handmade temples, 25 neither is he attended to by human hands as if he needed anything, because he himself gives to all [persons] life and breath and all things. 29 Seeing, therefore, that we are the progeny of God, we ought not to imagine that the Divine Being is like gold or silver or stone, like something sculptured by the art and contrivance of man
I'm guessing here Kween but I think they started calling it "good" because when He died for us we got a second chance at life.
Easter always being on a friday and all that other stuff is scheduled to fit their needs. The 3 days is because Jesus was ressurected 3 days later.
thank you!
anybody watch the new "Ten Commandments"
when Mose came down from the mountain and saw the worshiping the golden cow and how pissed he was. and the dude said that they can see the cow thats why they needed it.. same as the pictures, cross, and beads
ok king were you there, how do you know god did not give us the cross or that god gave us the bible.....and if you say it was written in the bible...i go back to the fact man wrote this :)
3 days later...from friday?
you have been a jerk!!! you are always are!
You are most welcome my dear.
D - you do realize that I could pull up another translation of those same verses which would support my argument, right?
I won't because (1) there is no point in beating a dead horse and (2) I understand exactly where you are coming from: God is God all by himself and we don't have to add anything to Him.
there's a lot of loop holes between what God intended and what churches translate what He done/intended
Was I there? I need to get a new picture up if I look that old! LOL
No I wasn't there and yes men penned the Bible but God wrote it. There are too many things throughout the Bible that men could not have known or forseen.
Exactly Chele. All we need is Him.
But just to beat the dead horse a little bit more. I challenge anybody to find a scripture that says or even hints that it ok to use icons or images in worship.
Kween there are so many loopholes!!! Anybody with a little bit of knowledge of the Bible could start a church and preach whatever he wants and make big money! That's why you should never take anybody's word and read and study for yourself.
religious belief convos can go on for days...i teach my kids to read and study the Bible for themselves, get to know God for themselves, and only let God judgement count
its called fiction, anyone can make up anything.....
my point is YOU nor ANYONE else (as in manhood as a whole) knows which is the correct version of the bible....
I'm sure there is a set of ppl out there that believe organized religion was made up as a way to control ppl, have them think they are stronger consequences than law to fear to keep them in line...
please note, im not one of those ppl, but im sure that point could be argued as much as your point...
D -- I'm gonna smack you. Let the horse rest in peace. I do have one more issue with the following statement:
There are too many things throughout the Bible that men could not have known or forseen.
Are you saying that there were no prophets in biblical times?
I agree. Read and study for yourself!
I like it rough Chele!
Yes there were definitely Prophets! They, like the Bible writers were given that knowledge by God.
It's been real, folks. I have to get outta here ... I'm having some more of my hair cut off.
Wanna post a scripture about how I shouldn't be doing that, D? LOL
and d, you show me where it says you cant use a cross in conjuction with praising him........
i realize you should not idolize anything instead of him
and D, you keep going back to this text that we really dont know is true........yes you believe.....thats fine....i'm not saying your right or wrong in your beliefs, all i'm saying is that when judgment day comes only one belief will be right, there's as much chance that your belief is wrong as there is that its right.
and those who translated and came up with the NIV made it worse
Another good point N1S! Here's the thing. A man or woman of faith believes that God wants what is best for them. There are hundreds of thousands of churches and hundreds of religions. But there is only one truth. A lot of people will say just do what you think is right and hope for the best. To me that doesn't make sense. I want to be on the right side. The Bible says there will always be a group of people on this Earth that are doing exactly what God has told them to do. I believe that.
Yes all my beliefs are based on the Bible being true.The Bible has been proven to be true for centuries. The prophecies and the foresight in there could not have been from a man.
You ain't funny Chele!
ok d, what truths have come from the bible? maybe i missed something...
planning devil's sdvocate: here's another way to look at these truth, there is a chance that life is mirroring "art." once it is written it can be recreated... and then once it happens someone goes to the bible and interepts something to make it correlate with actual events.
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Hahahahah King you are good. Did you know the Gospel of Judas is set to be released soon? This is an ancient Gnositic text from about the third century. I am curious to see what My King thinks about that. BTW good post:)
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