I read a story yesterday that really bothered me. I emailed the link to my co-worker and friend Nico. Below I've posted his response to me saying that it's a shame that a city that is majority black having such a hard time right in the nations capital and below that is my response to his response. Does that make sense? Good. Again this went through company email so we were quite tame. Let me know what your thoughts are and as always..... Enjoy.
You are telling the truth but you know a lot of the parents don’t even care that their children are the majority and that the city is rigged with crime and illiteracy.
Most African-American males prefer to think they will become rap stars someday; the girls would like to dance in their videos and while this it is good to have a dream, it is also good to learn one or two things just in case. So you have a backup plan. Most kids are dropping out and taking to the streets and joining gangs. And the Gang leaders are out there roving the streets recruiting young impressionable minds that need a better example to emulate. If a young African American man doesn’t wear tee shirts three times his size, with pants hanging off the bottom of their ankles, they are looked at funny and called Cosby kids. The girls prefer to be with gangsters and have children all over with numerous men at very tender ages.
Most men don’t take charge of their families. Most even abandon their children and do what it takes to own that new Cadillac and they throw some D’s on it, rather than pay child support that will enable their children buy school books. Mothers let their children who are barely able to walk watch TV videos that objectify women and tell them to pop it, lock it and drop it, as a means of babysitting the children.
It is a lamentable situation, and when Bill Cosby wants to bring people’s attention to it, they ridicule him and rout his persistent aim and sensitizing the people who have been taken advantage of for 500 years (slavery and colonialism) and are still being taken advantage of as I write. It sucks but that is the reality in which we live.
We have to wake up and smell the coffee and although many are trying to do that, the vast majority just doesn’t care. Martin Luther, Malcolm X etc died for nothing. To young men and women today, these people signify nothing. Calling their brothers niggas just as the white man did. Busting a cap on their own brothers. Drive buy shootings, etc .This is what living in the city has been relegated to. And who lives in the city, the niggas that don’t want to work or learn. The niggas that really don’t have an excuse for standing in the street corner all day shooting dice and relying on the tax money of the few hardworking men and women of their kind (call it welfare).
It is sad but then again. A chacun son lit! As you make your bed, so shall you lie on it.
This is a very interesting take on the situation. Let's take another look as well. We live in the richest country in the world. We have spent billions of dollars in Iraq the past 4 years. The exact amount of time it takes for a student to get through high school. So let's not blame the victims here! Are there irresponsible men and women in the black community? Yes. Just as there are in every community including Karl Rove and George Bush in the white community. But for some reason irresponsible white men are the most powerful men in the world while Tyrone from D.C. can't read. It doesn't mean that Tyrone isn't smart. No! They spend as little money as possible to educate these children while they turn their heads as crack fill the city streets. If a young child grows up with two parents who are drug addicts and makes it out then they are the exception! They aren't exposed to anything outside a 50 mile radius and so they think that wearing their pants hanging off their butt is what they are SUPPOSED to do. They sleep in horrendous conditions and are privy to things that you and I would squirm at if we saw it on a movie screen. So when Jay-Z comes on TV and says he made it out of the ghetto and he drives this car and wears these clothes while he's standing next to Beyonce then of course that's who they want to be like!
So it wasn't exactly what Mr. Cosby said but how he said it and whom he said it to. He was condescending and really didn't put the onus of the problem on the correct people. Black people aren't inherently violent nor are they born with an inability to learn as fast as others. In fact we adapt better than any people on this planet. We turn sh*t to sugar and then others come along and profit off of it. White boys in Iowa wear there pants hanging off their butts too. They call their college bound girlfriends b*tches and ho*s just like the boys in D.C. The white boys learned that stuff from watching music videos. You see white men like Clive Davis and Jimmy Iovine saw that despite the fact that these impoverished and illiterate men were at an extreme disadvantage they made it cool and not only that but they made it MARKETABLE. Ahh capitalism at it's best. They sold 50 Cent to the masses as a young black man who didn’t have a mother or a father and had been shot 9 times. They was the crux of their marketing plan. Interesting isn't it. 50 Cent has proven to be quite the business man himself. He earned almost 100 million dollars last year. Not from record sales but from the running of his own company. Of course if he made 100 million somebody else made 200 million because of him.
The point? A kid who isn't being taught values from his parents because his parents weren't taught values and the importance of education is going to look at Theo Huxtable on the Cosby show as an anomaly, him and the whole family just seem odd or out of place because he's never met anybody like that. The show is a fantasy. But he sees guys like Ludacris everyday on his block. There's a guy in the apartment above him that can rap just as good or better than Snoop Dogg. But he's functional illiterate. Biggie Smalls is universally recognized as a musical genius. Some of the words and phrases that young man put together were unbelievable. He never graduated high school. You'll never see graduation pictures of the CEO and President of Def Jam either because Jay-Z never finished high school. It just so happens that these two and a few others get a chance to show exactly how smart they are and can be if a given a chance. But in reality there are a million Jay-Zs across this country and there are easily 10 or 12 standing on a corner or in a crack house in D.C. as I type this email. So let's not judge these babies of victims and these grandchildren of victims let's look at the real enemy, the real irresponsible men who continue to allow some of our best and our brightest just sit on a corner blocks away from the richest and most powerful buildings in the world!
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I have two thoughts:
(1) I think there is a crisis in America, and the crisis is in education. Not a white problem or a black problem, but a US problem. I watched a 20/20 show not too long ago, and it was sort of scary. The link takes you to the 40 minutes of video on a YouTube account.
(2) I believe this has to do with expectancy. If people expect certain things, they generally rise to that expectation. If you expect to finish 10th grade, chances are you will not disappoint. If you expect to be arrested, you won't disappoint. The US answer to fixing this education/literacy stuff is to throw money at the problem. I have read of cases where low income areas with poor performing students have actually turned their students' performance around by involving parents (changing expectations). It's not the suits in DC that will solve this one; it gets solved when people expect more of themselves.
interesting.. i understand and see valid points w/ both opinions.. but have to say that just b/c they see 8 or 9 jay-z's and luda's on their block does mean that's what they have to be... yeah maybe the cosby show isn't their reality.. but that doesnt mean that they cant try to make it that way... be a leader.. not a follower.. that's why jay-z & luda were able to be successful.. they chose not follow the rest of the dudes on the corner and do something more w/ their life
My liege,
You know I'll tell you how it is. Your co-worker presented a better argument than you did - more objective and based on fact. I'll expantiate.
Yes, the US spent billions of dollars on the Iraq invasion. You reckon this money should have been spent on Tyrone's education. What you fail to point out is that Tyrone does not have the will to study. As your co-worker said, his head is filled with dreams of appearing on TV, as if this is the pinnacle of a black man's existence. Yes, the life of anyone of ethnic origin is that much more difficult, but making something of yourself is not unrealistic. Yes, most of them don't know any better, but there are thousands of examples of people who climbed out of abject poverty and despair to become roaring successes. Why can't they seek to climb out of the pit? It's very easy to blame whites for the predicament of blacks, etc, but the fact is that blacks are doing it to themselves. Our mentality seems to unable to comprehend the concept of doing shyt for ourselves, of taking our destinies into our own hands. Don't we get tired of blaming everyone else but ourselves?
I wish I could understand about a kid not being taught values from his parents as his parents weren't taught either doesn't really wash with me - the point is that at a certain age, each person becomes fully responsible for his/her actions regardless of his/her background.
Is our destiny bound with the music industry? Is that all we're good for? Or sports? Do we not also possess intellectual wealth, which, in today's knowledge age, is the only way of making money? So why do we all think the only way out is in music or sports? Can't we think above and beyond the basic, menial aspects of life? Can't we excel?
Yes, the powerful leaders, who are white, have contributed their fair share to the plight of ethnic groups (not just black), but I'm sure you'd agree that there is a disproportionate number of frankly useless black people - the blame for this lies solely at our own door. We're content with our useless lot, we refuse to consolidate our brain power, monetary power, etc to develop formidable, wealth-creating ventures (like most other ethnic groups living in the SAME white countries do) - no, instead all we want to do is blame everyone else and live in squalor. Well, I reject the notion that I'll always hit a glass ceiling of some sort. I can do whatever I put my mind to, regardless of what those in power choose to do (or not to). You have to develop an equilibrium between yourself and the rest of humanity, and this includes taking responsibility for your life, and for your actions.
I'm not saying that we have it easy, but dammit, let the white-blaming end. Yes, they can be stupid and daft, but then, so can we! We're all human. Let's just make the best of the present situation, and learn to be happy from within. Nothing's going to be perfect until we get to heaven anyway!
And you know I'm a black woman living, studying and working in a white country so don't even try
y am i not on ur list of people
he got his ass whipped in white america
ok speaking as a parent with school age children... not political but from where i stand...
i live in a white neighborhood and there may be 10 black kids in my children's schools. my kids do not watch videos or any adult tv. the only rappin the see or hear is Hip Hop Harry... and that show is annoying as hell but very educational i think they are distractions. my son is distracted enough where he does not need added distractions. i thought about moving back to the county of STL... but decided against it because of the school system. i feel my children with get the best education that the public school system can provide out here.
the city schools here just got their credition taken and has been taken over by the state because the system is so messed up.
i don't know much about the hip hop world or how bad the education system is in America but i do agree with naija girl said... most of these kids don't want to do learn. they don't want to try new things. i can see in right here in my house. they are given to much freedom and to many choice. and not enough parents are whoopin they kids. every time i see someone or hear some kid acting up and i let mine know if they ever did something like that i will beat them down. there kids aren't scared of their parents. they have no discipline. i put most of the blame on the parents. yeah i know not everyone can stay home. but you do what you gotta do and make sure you raise your children right. be involved with your kids. yeah your life might be small but whats more important...you or your child.
Hmmm...I think you guys have convinced me.
With my new found thought process I can now look at so many things differently. For example all those poor and uneducated people that were stuck in that football stadium in New Orleans should just shut up and not complain because they had the opportunity to learn how to drive or to get jobs so they'd have money to leave the city. Heck they could've taken swimming lessos if nothing else!
I wonder does my sarcasm come through over the internet.
We all have a personal responsibility to ourselves. I agree with that wholeheartedly. But for those of us who might have had a parent or grandparent or uncle or aunt that inspired us to want to learn and to speak with correct grammar or were jsut so down trodden from our situation that we worked twice as hard to make it have no right to look back and then judge those of us who didn't have those things.
We as individuals have so many opportunities in this wonderful world but we also have to realize that really ugly people push the buttons that make this world go 'round. I just finished talking to a young lady who is a junior at a D.C. high school and she told me that not one day goes by that one of her teachers doesn't show up for work and so her and the other students just kind of hang out and talk on their cell phones or sleep. She told me that the Superintendent of the schools visited and asked one of the students where the school library was and the young man told him that he didn't even know the school had a library. Now should a 15, 16, or 17 year old student in high school know where the library is? YES! But how in the world could the teachers and administrators allow this boy to go three years and never introduce him to a library?! Some people are taught by their parents and guardians that getting an education is a waste of time. So they develop a cewrtain attitude. Some kids parents work two or three jobs and don't have time to realize that their child has a learning disability and maybe that's why he or she acts up in class. Because they are frustrated and don't think they are smart. The fact is my friends some kids are not only not taught how to dream but they are taught they dreaming is a waste of time. They live in areas where the schools are piss poor. The teachers don't want to be there. The school has no computers. The kid has no computer at home. The internet is foreign to him. He or she doesn't have the liberty to go to the library and research things because they have a little brother or siter to look after or maybe, just maybe, the library in their neighborhood is sub par.
We as a society cannot blame ignorant people. We need to look at the educators and the powers that be. Why are teachers in certain school districts paid less than others? Why do some school districts get better equipment than others? But to develop this Clarence Thomas way of thinking "I did it so you should be able to make it too" is ridiculous because each individual has different circumstnaces. And to assume that poor and the disenfranchised WANT to be poor and disenfranchised is itself ignorant. The amilitary is full of poor young men and women who thought that was the bst way out of bad situations. And then we send them off to die in a war that they know nothing about. To help liberate people who in some cases lived better than they did on the streets of the U.S.A.!
Everyone wants to have a good run at life. But the poor and uneducated have had their feet stomped on and to blame them for getting their feet stomped on instead of stopping the men who stomping them just adds to the injustice they've experienced their entire lives. So again I believe in personal responsibility as well but to ignore the fact that the taxes we pay are used to bomb other poor people instead of educating the ones on our streets we be completely irresponsible and wrong.
dream /drim/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[dreem] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, dreamed or dreamt, dream·ing, adjective
–noun
1. a succession of images, thoughts, or emotions passing through the mind during sleep.
2. the sleeping state in which this occurs.
3. an object seen in a dream.
4. an involuntary vision occurring to a person when awake.
5. a vision voluntarily indulged in while awake; daydream; reverie.
6. an aspiration; goal; aim: A trip to Europe is his dream.
7. a wild or vain fancy.
8. something of an unreal beauty, charm, or excellence.
–verb (used without object)
In none of the above definitions to a dream do I see where it says people have to be taught how to dream or anything to that matter. Just thought I'd point that out.
here's the deal...
1. the reason why drug dealers and gang leaders are recruiting so well in those neighborhoods is cuz they're THERE. if cosby and other rich black folk, if doctors, lawyers, teachers, bus drivers, and other black folk gainfully employed showed up on those neighborhoods on a regular basis, showed the kids they actually gave a damn instead of giving a few dollars to a charity and calling it a day, instead of grandstanding and bitching about what's wrong with the community instead of lauding what's right, those kids wouldn't be so susceptable to doing dirty work.
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